Way Forward--Captain Jeff Anderson
07-21-2015 | 04:28 AM
#12
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The damage done by the MEC rush job for POS15 is irreparable. Just think about that for a long time. Pilots are now conditioned as you can see in the letter and management knows any increase will again be sold by the MEC. We are in a tight spot now thanks to the MEC. Which, is why they all have to go. All of them. All of them. Then we need time. They have done more damage than imaginable.
The LAST thing we need is another quick TA-2.
The LAST thing we need is another quick TA-2.
1. Donatelli is probably punching out.
2. Recalls still have to happen, and the MEC will simply not function until this process has been honored. It's anyone's guess how "successful" those will be.
3. One-third of the MEC is up for election in two months. They take office in March.
4. Somewhere in that mess, a new MEC chair, admin and committee corps will have to move in.
5. New negotiators, polling, a survey, anything to get a faint clue about what will actually pass MEMRAT. I'm not convinced that the reps of C1 and C20 will actually vote in favor of anything that isn't a complete capitulation by management.
6. The victory laps and witch burnings are still ongoing, and the pilot group needs to calm down and think about what the next offer will resemble. A two-way deal will have something for us, and something for management; anybody saying otherwise is a populist and a panderer.
07-21-2015 | 04:50 AM
#13
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I think a lot of guys will throttle back if Donatelli and the old guard, non-elected bureaucrats step aside. But since the the odds of that are less than zero (are Hanson, scrappy, pinho, harvilla, hardwood, farmer, parker, and the others willingly going back to the line?), motivated malcontent will continue to be mainstream.
07-21-2015 | 06:14 AM
#14
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Guys, when have you ever heard the company publicly say "we'll give something up."
Never. It's terrible negotiating. The company guys are pros. We are not. Of course they know they'll have to give up something. But they want us to fight tooth and nail for every last gain. And we should do the same.
Let's stop publicly telegraphing that we'll bend over for x, y, or z. Let them fight for it. Our public stance should be "we're not giving up jack **** in this environment."
Never. It's terrible negotiating. The company guys are pros. We are not. Of course they know they'll have to give up something. But they want us to fight tooth and nail for every last gain. And we should do the same.
Let's stop publicly telegraphing that we'll bend over for x, y, or z. Let them fight for it. Our public stance should be "we're not giving up jack **** in this environment."
07-21-2015 | 11:01 AM
#15
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