Originally Posted by
Slice
Nice edit.
Not sure what you are referring to here..... Editted the post well before you replied....
Originally Posted by
Slice
If it were up to me things would be different. When the next contract comes up, it will be something that I voice to my MEC.
That's democracy and really all you can do.... I support you in your efforts as I intend to be junior to you at Brown.... I sincerely wish you and others luck in your efforts...
Originally Posted by
Slice
UPS or any airline isn't 'giving' me or you anything. It is required training by the FAA, not a favor. Pilots are hired to move people or goods. That generates revenue for said corporation. End of story.
Yes, we are hired to move people/goods to generate revenue. So are pilots at corporate jobs..... Why is it industry standard to have a type rating or time in type for this flying? UPS could Easily get away with only hiring guys with time in type..... tons of 757 pilots want in. Tons of MD11 pilots want in. Plenty of 747 contract pilots too..... Im sure they would pay more for people with this experience......They already upped the mins to include Oceanic Crossing experience....... Fact is however, that *MOST* places that pay low first year get what they pay for..... MANY CAL new hires have 0 Turbine PIC, since it is not required.... Though UPS requires 1000T-PIC, that individual may have Zero time in any UPS type aircraft.
Originally Posted by
Slice
Hell, let's go back to the 90's when some regionals(called commuters back then if you're old enough to remember) were doing PFT...were wages higher since guys were footing the bill for their sims? I'll save you the web search, the answer is HELL NO. Under your logic, they should have been paid an extra $10K their first year.
Comparing different decades in the airline industry is apples and oranges. There are STILL places offering PFT but guess what, places are WAY short on applicants since even the POOR PAYING regionals are short on bodies.
Originally Posted by
Slice
I did make a stand albeit a small one. I didn't pursue any airlines that continue to pay poor wages even after the first year.
Just curious what airlines you DID end up working for that made the cut aside from UPS......
Originally Posted by
Slice
I love the new job and flying the line but I won't stand around and let guys like you go unchallenged when you make statements like you did above. Just because you're content with sub-par pay doesn't mean the rest of us should be.
I never said I was content and compared to the current industry I am making above-par wages for my work..... Not saying it is what it should be but the entire industry is low.... I work at a place with among the highest 50 seat pay industry wide and a company that flies all the same destinations as the domestic airlines, coast to coast including Canada and by far more places than anyone in Mexico.
When the industry comes around, it will come around for everyone wanting improvements....
Tailwinds...