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I can't get past the Teamsters unwillingness to keep the Hawker pilots at Hawker pay when they moved into the Phenoms.
Ken Ricci was willing to spend more, yet Teamsters wouldn't have any of it.


So you must have a problem then with all of the different airline unions as well? Because that is what a seniority system does. It is unfortunate but you cant have management just making up the rules to suite themselves. Later on the union offered a loa to allow pilots to come down and still retain their pay however that created a situation where there were now junior pilots making more than a couple of captains... the loa just stated that they could move down and keep their pay but the other more senior captains would then get a bump in pay to the same level BUT management was not interested in that!!!!! In fact is was only like two pilots and only for a few months until their pay scale caught up!!! It was management that refused to accept the loa!!! if memory serves me I think that those Hawker pilots could have been offered bumping rights and they could have displaced some beechjet and some phenom captains they then would have also retained their pay. Again management did not want to follow the contract because that would have forced several training events and they did not want to pay for them. Management was trying to work outside the contract and it seems then that the union was the bad guy but that was not the case as there was a perfectly valid way for those guys to retain their pay.