Originally Posted by
busdriver12
I didn't notice that. That one is definitely sneaky, perhaps trying to get us to deviate early, potentially before they buy the ticket at a higher fare. I wonder if there's a way around it....ie drop the trip and pick it back up, swap it with someone and pick it back up. You can't deviate prior to the bid period unless you were the initial trip holder. I wonder how that works, if you swap onto something after the bid period commences.
I thought of that drop trip and pick back up trick too. That's also my way around the $25 charge after 2nd deviation ticket change!
I think it's an interesting question on how the pairings will look. Trip 1 DH to EWR, deviated before bid period by pilot A, then dropped into open time. Trip 2 DH to EWR, never deviated by pilot B, then dropped into open time. Both DHs take place on the same flight. Will trip one have a Baseline fare of $300 and an Established fare of $450 where Trip 2 will remain at $300. Will the pilot that picks up the open time trip get the Established fare of $450 for trip 1? That's what I thought at first, but then I look at the definition:
"Established Fare: A fare quote obtained pursuant to Section 8.A.4.b. The fare quote shall include documentation which verifies the time and date that the fare quote was obtained and the employee number for the pilot(s), if any, assigned to the deadhead at that time."
Why would they go to all the trouble of time stamp and employee number of pilot assigned, if they weren't going to remove that Established fare if he dropped it? Therefore, I think all open time trips will be at baseline fare which is no change from today. The only trip you can pick up from open time that will have a "real" fare will be a revision or x-pairing. Not a very good or comprehensive change. And, we sold First Class DHs and HILO for this type of underwhelming stuff?
The company had already thought of how to bilk us out of the hidden $800 million in contract 2006. I'm already figuring out how I get around some of the new provisions in case the TA passes!
But, it also looks like they are clever once again and are figuring how to get around seeming good enhancements like two-look fares.
Take a close look at the wording of the rolling deviation bank. It says next month it will be 50%. Doesn't say month after month...that's just how we interpret it and how the NC says it will work. Nowhere in the TA language do I see rolling or month-after-month.