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Old 10-07-2015, 10:34 AM
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Phteven
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Originally Posted by Klsytakesit View Post
Sympathy is involved if the outsourcing is to a wholly owned carrier.....Outsourcing ran away with at least american and delta(and continental / northwest....)easier to take back flying when there is no connection.....Horizon has shown their true colors over and over.....Best to get what you can and move on
I think few regional pilots hope to see the regional industry flourish and grow. "Get what you can and move on" is what everyone starts out trying to do at the regionals. Some aren't as successful as others, especially when mainline carriers are farming out their flying to cheap regionals and there become fewer and fewer seats at the table for regional pilots hoping to move on to the majors. In a perfect world their would be no two-tiered system and regional flying will just be done by junior mainline pilots, but I think it is a little ambitious to think that the regionals will never exist.

Where there is hope in this industry is to have the regional airlines function at a more consolidated level than they are now, and under the same roof as their mainline counterparts. The "race to the bottom" is due to multiple regionals bidding for the same flying - it does nothing good for the industry to feed that concept by moving regional flying away from WO carriers and to independent FFD carriers. It has already been said a million times - Alaska needs to get scope to keep this from getting out of hand. However, what is good for all pilots is for this FFD regional contract system to die and regional flying to be reclaimed by the mainlines to the greatest extent possible, and the rest be covered by single, WO regionals. Pick your favorite mainline, work for the WO regional that is the sole regional operator for that mainline and therefore has the negotiating power to get a livable wage, and eventually flow to that mainline - sure not what the industry looks like today but I don't think this is out of the realm of possibility.

Originally Posted by snackysmores View Post
The Supreme Leader has already spoken. Alaska pilots took their medicine, now it's time for Horizon pilots to bend over during a period of record profits.
It just goes to show that even in the best of times, there is always an excuse for a fresh round of BOHICA. Nothing to take personally here, he's not a friend ****ing us over. He'd get a round of applause from the shareholders and an end of year bonus for getting a concessionary contract during their most profitable year ever. That's like the airline management equivalent of deadsticking an A320 onto the Hudson.

Easy, vote no. Seems to be working everywhere else right now.
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