Originally Posted by
Gearswinger
Some people just love to complain. Maybe Kforkyle can explain how this is a kick in the ass.
Originally Posted by
madeinUSA
I was thinking the same thing. Jealousy would be the only reason for someone to think that another pilot getting paid more is a bad thing.
Jealousy?!
It's the principle of the matter. I can only assume you two were not 9E FOs in 2007. At the time we were the lowest paid RJ drivers for 1st and 2nd year, even below Mesa. 1st year was 20.73/hr and 2nd year was 24.39/hr. 9E management came up with a LOA that raised 1st and 2nd year FO pay. The union decided to play hardball and hold the FOs hostage for leverage. The union never used the word "jealous" to justify screwing us out of a payraise, they said it was leverage. Leverage, of course, that would never come, and can never come in the FFD cutthroat business.
Then TA 1 came and management again just gave 10 million as the signing bonus for time since amendable date, and the union again tried to screw the FOs by making a formula based on W2 wages. So to recap, screw FOs out of 1st and 2nd year payraises, and then tied a bonus distribution method to W2 wages which were of course oppressed because they turned down the pay raise.
So yeah, I get the heartache some have with LOA 50. You USED to be a Captain. Now that you are downgraded, you should get FO pay like every other FO out there. Not create a B-scale FO in which only a select few get a higher pay for doing the same FO job. Of course, management just did this because they knew if downgraded CAs had to go back to FO pay, almost all would leave right away to another regional (esp a Direct Entry Captain position). Management was smart and they offered a LOA to help in retaining pilots. The union of course took it and created a B scale for FOs.
Now with that history explained, hopefully you understand the grudges of 7-9 year legacy 9E FOs.