This 2 year bandaid will pass and we won't see the next contract for at least 7 years. No changes to QOL issues, sick leave accrual, training pay, PBS, etc etc etc. Hope the narrow body guys like 31 hours in CLE (etc) for zero pay! The company will get the relief they want for pennies on the dollar and we will have blown a great opportunity. They will have zero incentive to negotiate. Its likely that by then, our contract will be so cheap (relative to DAL) that it will pay them to dig in their heels.


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You only help reinforce the point to Vote YES for this! You are saying it's going to take 5 years for SEC 6 negotiations to complete, which is pretty much the norm. Of course you NEVER get retro pay and 5 years of lost pay raises with the future value of money, is money you NEVER EVER get back. What a crock of #@@$# that we have leverage! DAL and SW have tons of it, and got lackluster TAs, so give me a break with that BS. There are very little givebacks in this extension proposal. We get a pay raise NOW, which results in hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of dollars extra in your pocket with proper investment over the next 30 years. FULL SEC 6 negotiations is a joke and the pilots end up doing the same give and take as it is, but lose out on all that income. Just plain stupidity. We now get the pay with the ME TOO DAL clause. Reserve rules are going to get delayed out over the next year or two anyhow, so as a reserve, why wouldn't you take the extra 16% pay raise!!! Reserves would be foolish to wait for SEC 6 completed talks. And LOA 25, if you don't yank it now, then for most of the double furloughees, they gain very little in pay if none, except for the retro. MOU 22 makes sense. I still have to see how many flights will get affected by the FRMS change, but it doesn't look like many. Just do the math folks and see what you lose out in pay, with interest, compounded over the remainder of your career vs no pay raise for 4-6 years and it won't be much over this anyhow. You'll never make up the loss; in fact, won't even come close. And losing out on hundreds of thousands of dollars is not an exaggeration. If your a math idiot, then ask your CPA or financial manager to show you the numbers. So sick of hearing the old school shouting we should hold off for entire SEC 6 negotiations. Pilots always end up losing. Give me full retro pay going that route, and I would fully support it, but it will NEVER happen. So with what's proposed, it's time to stare a gift horse in the mouth. This will pass, and we will be a bunch of fools to say NO. Otherwise you can be like the numbnuts of USAIR that refused the arbitration for their merger and lost 7-8 years of pay. What buffoons.