Old 11-30-2015 | 07:17 PM
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horrido27
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
We don't need no stinking official word. We like to speculate on rumors, and if we can't find any rumors to speculate, we start just making $hlt up. That's how we roll.

I'm kidding. I do hope though that you get a nice contract extension, though. It'll make our fight a little easier, too. Good luck.
This brings up a VERY interesting point.. something I've started to wonder about recently. What does it mean for Delta Pilots and what does it mean for ALPA National?

Does a YES raise up the bar higher than what you guys initially turned down? Or would your management turn around and just match UAL while keeping your Profit Sharing the same?
[Matching us would actually be a big FU to the UAL Pilot group with regards to the 'Delta Me Too clause']*
At the same time, would a YES on our side mean no new CBA for us until 2019/2020.. but would you guys already have 1 and maybe 2 new contracts during that same time? [if you got one in 2016, and then another one in 2019/2020?]

And what about a NO. Does that throw the ball back in your court first? Or does UAL management team try to sweeten the deal? Do they try and open full Contract talks in May (or earlier) due to needing relief on FRMS?
Does DAL management see what's going on over here and try and push a deal first?!

There are DEFINITELY long range implications for our 2 pilot groups with this extensions..

And then there's ALPA National. After you're failed TA, how much money did ALPA spending pushing a TA that (obviously) went against the wishes of your pilot group? It will be interesting to see what kind of sales job happens on our side IF the extension passes our MEC.
Since ALPA National runs on all of our dues money, if we are looking at a 13/3/2 deal then they just increased their income greatly while pushing the costs of negotiating a new UAL CBA down the road.. something to also think about~

Our MEC put out a Blastmail this evening which hints at not seeing anything for a while (I'm betting no vote until after the Holidays, if it comes to that).. but also making mention of the Forums. Stating - "Nearly all of the forum posts, blogs, email threads, media reports, and other speculations are wrong, in part or in whole, as no one has the benefit of the final language of the TA."
That implies that some of what is out there is true.. but which parts?

It's a good thing these clowns weren't involved in the Allied invasion to Liberate Europe back in '44... Ze Germans would have known we were coming!

Interesting times~
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* you guys are still the highest paid out there.. when you actually figure what your earned based on hourly wages, Profit Sharing and 401k vs. Hours worked/credit!
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