United TA blows Delta TA out of the water
11-30-2015 | 07:19 PM
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12-02-2015 | 10:39 AM
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Delta Contract 2015 was an approx. 15.5% pay raise over 3 years once backing out the 5.25% profit sharing concession. It came attached with a significant net negative package of concessions.
United's AIP is a 16% pay raise in year 1 with some improvements in other areas. It did not address other contractual wants with respect to scheduling but also didn't contain any further concessions.
Across most categories United and Americans pay rates will be appr. 13% Higher than Delta's beginning Jan 1, 2016. With our 7ER category lagging only 8% on the low end and our 767-400 rates lagging 20% on the high end.
And of course, this doesn't account for the subsequent 3% annual raises and "me too" clauses that protect both United and American's standing as having equal to or higher payrates than their competitive set. Meanwhile, pay raises have discontinued for Delta pilots. And Delta's "me too" clause has the cumbersome requirement of giving 30%+ non-contract employees a raise in order to trigger raises for pilots.
Delta Contract 2015 was an approx. 15.5% pay raise over 3 years once backing out the 5.25% profit sharing concession. It came attached with a significant net negative package of concessions.
United's AIP is a 16% pay raise in year 1 with some improvements in other areas. It did not address other contractual wants with respect to scheduling but also didn't contain any further concessions.
Across most categories United and Americans pay rates will be appr. 13% Higher than Delta's beginning Jan 1, 2016. With our 7ER category lagging only 8% on the low end and our 767-400 rates lagging 20% on the high end.
And of course, this doesn't account for the subsequent 3% annual raises and "me too" clauses that protect both United and American's standing as having equal to or higher payrates than their competitive set. Meanwhile, pay raises have discontinued for Delta pilots. And Delta's "me too" clause has the cumbersome requirement of giving 30%+ non-contract employees a raise in order to trigger raises for pilots.
There isn't nor has there ever been any me too clause in our JCBA at AA. The closest thing we had to that was if we voted down the JCBA (unfortunately we didn't) we would have gotten the average of the united and delta rates, still with no profit sharing.
But hey, APA decided to get us a 2.5% pay raise to get rid of profit sharing
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