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Old 12-23-2015 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Here's some though about why they can keep flowing the protected pilots at faster rate tha PSA and PDT guys.

Because most of the protected pilots are 5-8 yr FOs, if we upgrade we get more expensive than a PSA/PDT 2-3yr CA, flying a 50 seater.

They have to get us out of the door so they can have cheaper feed. It's as simple as that. By the time a protected pilot flow it will be at year 10-12 at envoy (in a perfect escenario). Then the flow start being reduced gradually to match PSA/PDT.
I think we have some agreement here. However, IMO, AAG will want to balance the situation out much sooner then any PP will benefit a new-hire of today at Envoy more so then that of PSA/PDT. Will any reduction in flow occur immediately after the last 824 is gone with no senior PP pilot flowing at the present.......er....the projected/suggested rate ?

No one can pinpoint that. That's like pinpointing an Envoy new-hire of today WILL flow in 6 years or less.

If AAG (once again) tells Envoy ALPA and pilots the "world has changed" and that the new paradigm for the AA WO feed system pilot-wise WILL be uniform in cost and benefit (which they'll almost certainly model the most company advantageous CBA after) and either Envoy pilots choose to participate or be pushed aside, Envoy ALPA will ensure participation. The contracts will be identical and the flow approximately equal and in that fashion using the same litmus you are saying exists today at Envoy will not only exist at all 3 equally, but remain stable in that ideal going forward.

Otherwise, the 3-legged regional stool becomes unstable and then they have to expend time, money and effort using temporary patchwork solutions and robbing peter to pay paul just like they are using Envoy now. That's not a good business plan going forward. What's occurring now with Envoy is just to ensure they can handle the temporary overflow the others cannot handle. That will balance out and long before any Envoy new-hire of today could expect to benefit or plan on flowing in 6 years based on whatever present or near future Envoy flow rate might be occurring.