Let's see it takes about 18% for us to come back up to a rate that we had over a decade ago (2004) while the rest of the company employees are well above their pre-giveback rates. So 22% is about my bare minimum to accept a TA at this point and that is if the company doesn't try to touch our profit sharing which will certainly happen as they can't have us get so much more than the noncon's.

I bet we are in for a long ride.