Originally Posted by
ag386
More flying given to SkyWest out of LA. They will be using 7-10 CRJ-700's for LAX flying. With half of our pilot group on reserve, AAG can't see fit to move this flying back to Envoy. CRJ's used to do this as fly through.
This place sucks. Don't let anyone on here tell you otherwise. I wouldn't recommend Envoy to my worst enemy.
Some may stay here and accept the daily punishment that management doles out in hopes of eventually obtaining the brass ring and flowing right out of here.
Let me say to all you current Envoyers, get your current seniority number and subtract about 400. That's where you will be and stagnate for quite some time after the last half of the 824 flow. Then it will be daily punishment and being treated like dog **** in perpetuity.
I've finally had enough. Going to PHL job fair for PDT this month. They have the same flow deal over there but the catch is, they have only 450 or so pilots. So a much better chance at actually getting out of there to AA than at Envoy. Let's see, the bottom of 450 pilots or the bottom third of 2000 pilots. It's easy math for me.
I can be treated like dog **** at PDT just like Envoy and at least have a reasonable chance of getting to AA while I apply everywhere else.
As long as you understand you are rolling the dice should PDT be absorbed by another AAG WO. If PSA should absorb them, it might indeed benefit you and move you on a faster track to flow, but probably not by much. If it should be Envoy, you'd just end up back where you are only further back in any AA flow conga line (and from the sounds of it, you'd probably blow your brains out before that). If the WO's remain separate and PDT merges with another non WO, it may or may not result in a longer AA conga line as those non WO pilots would likely end up going before you as a result of an SLI. It depends on how many pilots that carrier has. The only significantly better scenario is PDT grows on its own while Envoy contracts. I would consider any present Envoy pilot jumping ship to PDT to be very risky.
Now a prospective new-hire to the WO American Eagle system ?
Well, in that case, I think they have more to gain shooting for PDT over Envoy then to risk, all things considered. I'd caution though against letting emotion guide your decisions, but if PDT is somewhere you want to go for specific reasons like domicile and you have minimal commitment to Envoy, then it might provide you more happiness.
Good Luck !