Yup, I get all that. Some regionals used to be "pay for training" or they didn't consider you employee until you completed OE, all on top of first year pay that qualified you for food stamps. But you won't find the guys who went through that advocating that their predecessors must go through the same trials in order to prove their metal. Every two bit regional provides hotels all through training, even Delta's wholly owned. They all provide lodging for FA's as well. Every other major provides hotels. It seems to me the union could make it clear they are not willing to spend negotiating capital on an issue that the company should be ashamed to have not addressed long ago. And seriously, how much could this really cost them? They bought an oil refinery. Why don't they buy the Crowne Plaza?


Regarding the ESPP, if they have one it must be top secret. Nobody I've talked to knows anything about it. Can anybody elaborate?