Originally Posted by TonyC

Are you really that dense, or are you just pretending in order to stir up trouble?


The issue is not Yes or No, fly or not, complain or gush compliments -- the issue is the rationale behind the action.

Aaron complained that he witnessed guys flying draft, and blamed them for our inability to get negotiate a better TA ... he accused them of negotiating against us. Starclipper pointed out those draft flyers may have been using the same logic to fly those draft trips as Aaron used to endorse the TA. Aaron posted at length to explain that voting FOR the TA was the best choice for HIM and HIS family. The draft flyer most likely felt that flying that trip was the best choice for HIM and HIS family. Of course, without asking him and allowing him to answer, we won't know. We can throw stones, but then that would sound like the criticism in the first post that Aaron chose to ... criticize.


We can choose to act like 4,500 individuals, or we can choose to act like one family. Here's the difference.

An individual votes YES or NO based on what is good for 1 person, that person. I don't fly the X airplane, I don't care about rules that only affect the X airplane. I only fly intra-Asia, I don't care about how "lie-flat" seats may affect ocean-crossers. I don't plan to use International Hotel-in-lieu-of, I don't care how it affects guys chasing girls around Asia. If the work rule doesn't apply to ME, I don't care how it affects anyone else.

A team player votes YES or NO based on what is good for 4,500 family members. I don't fly the X airplane, but I have 500 brothers and sisters who do, and I care about rules that will harm them. I only fly intra-Asia, but I have 4,300 brothers and sisters that don't, and I care about rules that affect them, too. I don't plan to use International Hotel-in-lieu of, but I'm not willing to concede that benefit if even one of my brothers will be harmed by the concession. Not every work rule applies to ME, but they all apply to US, and that's what family does -- we guard each others' backs.


The glaring irony that I think Starclipper picked up on is that Aaron began his post with "I really wonder why this pilot group is so quick to shoot at the guys on the same team." and in the very next sentence took a shot at the "*(&% 767 schoolhouse LCAs out here in Asia on draft." Last I checked, they're on the same team, too. And if they're looking out for themselves, how does that make them any different from the majority of their ... brothers?






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