Tanker-driver

All of your points are valid, but you're wrong here. Second year pay increases significantly. The APC quoted rates for UPS were accurate last time I checked. Also, don't forget that we do not have PBS and are able to conflict bid, which, along with the A plan, are what makes us a competitive choice for a potential new-hire IMO. Of course, I chose this place over the pax carriers, so my opinion may be biased.

If I were looking at coming here today, assuming I was offered a class date (big assumption), I'd accept the class, but keep my apps updated until we have a contract. A few significant contract improvements could make it well worth staying here. A sub-par agreement would make that airlineapps subscription worth it.

BL: UPS does have redeeming qualities -- A Plan, conflict bidding, no PBS, the best union in the industry, and a good group of people to fly with. Movement here is slow, but not as bleak a picture as some have painted. With a good new contract, there will be good reason to choose UPS as a place to hang your hat.