Originally Posted by
Section Eight
OP, you need to evaluate WHO is writing the response you are seeing. There's a stark difference in QOL here with only a few months of seniority given. An Early 07 hire and mid to late 07 hire live two COMPLETELY different lives.
I wonder (other than the money) why, with all the other airlines you or anybody else would dream of coming here? I don't mean that rudely, but seriously, with AA, DL, and others hiring why UPS.
The likely hood of you upgrading here is close to 20 years, also at the rate we are retiring people you can expect to be bounced around the system at their discretion. Some here still experience 3 long term training events in 12-18 months. That's a different airplane, different domicile, and the joy of being on a training schedule every 4-5 months.
They have NO plans to ever grow this airline, you are flying your checkride with someone who has 10% of the time and experience you do, I could go on and on.
Lastly, due to our previous presidents lack of ability to count, among other things, this place has tasted the benefit of a furlough. If it is in their power to save a single dollar at the expense of your family.....they will, and won't even hesitate.
I don't post here often, but I say again, seek like elsewhere.
Carry on......
I'm a recent UPS poolie and I've had the option on my profile to schedule an interview at SWA since July of 2015, but haven't done it. Why? For a variety of reasons- I live in a place that's not SWA commuting-friendly, I don't really want to fly self-loading cargo, I don't mind flying at night and freight is (typically) more stable than pax carriers.
I'm on the outside looking in, but when half of your seniority list is retiring in the next 10-12 years due to age 65, there's going to be movement. If there's early outs, it's just a bonus. If a person gets hired soon, they will be at the front of the wave of retirements and have progression throughout their careers.
With $28 crude, the pax carriers are making money hand over fist. WHEN, not if, crude runs back to $70-80/bbl or higher, it gives the pax carriers a great excuse cut the profit sharing and demand decreases in pay. It's all rosy these days, but someday it's not going to be. UPS and FedEx will add a few cent fuel surcharge to each package and they'll continue to make money hand over fist.
I haven't gotten a nibble from the Big 3 and I'm okay with that. If they did call, I would be humbled to interview and potentially have a choice of employers. If UPS and United offered classes the same day, call me crazy, but I would still go to UPS. Company stability is important to me, and I imagine it's important to other poolies/applicants as well.
Different strokes for different folks- it's what makes the world go 'round. Just wanted to throw a different opinion out there from someone who is anxiously awaiting a call for Basic Indoc. I hope to join you on the line very soon......