Originally Posted by
Slick111
In other words, my union reps don't care what I think. They're just going to tell me what I'm getting. Why tell the pilot group what topics are being discussed/negotiated and encourage their input PRIOR to the negotiations.
Hell, they just had a call-in conference. Was any of this discussed and feedback solicited from the pilot group, as a whole? Maybe we should expect to learn more about our future pay from facebook.
Let's be clear here. The Envoy "hiring and retention bonus" program will NOT benefit any pilots currently employed at Envoy. Nor will it benefit any pilots currently employed at PSA, if adopted. This program is solely and entirely aimed at pilots who are currently employed at OTHER 121 CARRIERS!!!!! NOT CURRENT PSA OR ENVOY FIRST OFFICERS (or Captains)!!!
Here's the language, directly from Envoy's ad: (with my emphasis added)
"Envoy will now offer up to $10,000 for **NEW HIRE** pilots who have Part 121 commercial air carrier experience. In return for a two-year commitment to Envoy,...."
Honestly, I don't think you "get it". The company and the NC negotiate on things. Once the NC feels that they have something worth sending to the pilots for a vote, then and only then do they do so. There is a reason that the MEC outright rejected the original proposal of a 10K signing bonus for new hires and 10K retention bonuses for FOs only. Because NO BONUSES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED unless they include ALL of the pilots. This is what you elect your fellow pilots to represent you for.