I wasn't intending to ignore most of your post but what I get from your post is that you believe we said no because we think it is not enough and a temporary fix to a bigger issue? Once again I agree this place is a ****** pile in a lot of respects but are you leaving? Are the CAs happy about the union standing up to DF leaving? Not even the fairly new FOs are leaving. So yes it's a bandaid to fix our new hire problem but until we have a CA and FO retention problem they won't offer us more. So in my mind the bandaid was the new hire bonus that they went and did any ways where as the free money to current FOs was thrown out. The bandaid is the new hire bonus not the retention bonus because retention isn't an issue yet. If saying no had meant no new hire bonus we would have had leverage but that isn't the case.