Originally Posted by kamari0

I am looking to possibly submit my application to Envoy but I need a sanity check here. They sound good long term. However, short term they aren't the best.

I am a ATP minimum pilot with no 121 experience, and I need some advice.

Envoy is offering me:
1. $5,000 signing bonus (Two-Year Training Contract)
2. ATP-CTP
3. Flow-through to American Airlines (5.5 Year Estimate)
4. Upgrade time (2.5 Year Estimate)
5. Flight benefits AAG
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Estimated Income:
Year 1: $23,400 ($26/hr @ 75hrs/mo)
Year 2: $31,500 ($35/hr @ 75hrs/mo)
Year 3: $49,950 ($38/hr -> $73/hr @ 75hrs/mo) Upgrade should happen around 2.5 years
Year 4: $67,500 ($75/hr @ 75hrs/mo)
Year 5: $69,300 ($77/hr @ 75hrs/mo)
Year 6: $70,200 ($79/hr -> $77/hr @ 75hrs/mo) Move to AA around 5.5 years.

Total Income 6 Years: $311,850
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I understand that that income listed above is in a "perfect world" and that the odds of everything happening as promised most likely will not happen in those exact time frames.

I've looked at many of the other airlines, SkyWest, Endeavor, Mesa and they are currently making slightly more money. However, they aren't "guaranteed" flow-through.

So do I chase the money, or do I take a risk and go for a flow-through program? Which airline would you guys advise your friend to go to and why?