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For reference:
Forbes Welcome Boeing gave a deep discount to United to buy 65 737s to block the C-Series.
So, David Bombardier Purdy
is what happens if Delta orders C Series at a reduced price but nobody else gets on that wagon except Air Canada? How stable is this program to make that kind of an investment?
I mean if you were Airbus you could easily drop some A319s and A320s into Delta's lap really cheap. Delta would even take used ones too, which Airbus could use to just price out the CS from a life sustaining order.
But put yourself in Airbus' shoes, do you see the CS as a viable order for Delta and thus make a deal or do you see Delta as just playing you? If you think Delta is just playing you and Boeing for a deal, then there won't be any CSeries.
And where are the tables in the cockpit?
According to this video there is a pull-out table but it is a little dated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=broXwnZhOVY
First, neither Boeing nor Airbus offers a new or efficient 120-150 seat alternative that makes sense without price reductions. The CS300 is a big step forward in technology and efficiency with big cost savings vs. geriatric, 1990s airplanes like the 700 or the A319. See this video regarding technology advances for the new SWISS CS100 (95% commonality with the CS300):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yWF9cCVJY
No doubt Boeing and Airbus want to thwart Bombardier and they are willing to dump their pre-NEO airplanes on customers considering aircraft in the 120-150 seat range. UAL has benefitted greatly from Boeing's willingness to do a deal.
Again, despite Delta's reputation for only buying proven airframes, Delta ordered the A350-900 before it was operational and the CS300 (the best option for the MD88 replacement) shares 95% part commonality with the smaller CS100 which will start service with SWISS in Europe next month (it is currently doing route-proving with SWISS out of Zurich). If the CS100 does well in terms of meeting performance expectations with SWISS and others, Delta should have more confidence in the CS300. The CS300 would fit perfectly between the 717 and the 737-800/A320 in terms of seating capacity and range capability (it is even Hawaii capable). Obviously Delta will add more E190s because they won't stop at just 20 airframes, but the E190 is not a suitable replacement for the bigger MD88/90.
As far as marquis customers are concerned, the C-Series has been ordered by SWISS, Korean and now Air Canada with several other smaller players. No doubt now is the time for Delta to both secure a very low per-unit price as well as production slots if they are interested in retiring the MD88 in the next few years...
Time for Bombardier to sharpen it's pencil for Delta and make it happen!!!!