C2012 with 22% increase in rates. That's 2004 rates plus 4% OR United plus 4% or American plus 5%.

Hardly seems out of the norm for the market.

Maintain profit sharing and no concessions just as United did.

When you say it out loud it seems very reasonable or maybe too reasonable but we are trying to get a deal so this is as generous as it gets.

My new favorite phrase is "my negotiating committee and MEC speak for me." I haven't been able to say that in a loooooooong time.

If the market were a free market I would be inclined to give credibility to that market argument. We would be paid a lot more. Since we are constrained by the RLA and the seniority structure, I see the new DALPA position as a serious offer to get a deal done.

76drvr YMMV BIDGAS 'cause it's/you're irrelevant now.