Originally Posted by
Shiner
A lot of y'all are looking at this backwards. If Envoy can't staff, that means each pilot they have becomes more valuable. It also means they will be more likely to increase compensation and ease work rules to hang on to everyone they've got.
Head on over to the Mesa thread where current pilots are telling newhires to stay away, so they can get a better contract. Less newhires = more leverage for current pilots, not less.
Also, if the contractual flow is violated, Envoy attrition will probably spike and they would lose more than the 25/month that were flowing.
You guys can't sit here and say, "flow is a carrot, and guys are only staying for the flow." Then turn around and say that the company will shut off the flow and every one will just sit here and wait for it to start again. If they shut it down, many senior FO's down to new FO's will see this as sign of what's to come and bail very quickly.
All that said, I don't have a crystal ball. You guys with your solid predictions and guarantees are fun to read, but the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. One thing is for sure, it'll be interesting times we're heading into.
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You're right. There is a middle ground between honoring the flow and shutting it down. That middle ground is, in my opinion, the most likely scenario. The next few years will be pretty fluid at the regionals. Maybe they would just delay it here and there, maybe just short it a little on occasion. And as we have seen they'll try to spin any flow hiccups in any way they can. But any violation of flow costs all pilots who haven't flowed real seniority, real money, real QoL.
You think they wouldn't do that because it would hurt recruiting? What about all they've done in the last 2+ years that have hurt recruiting? They don't seem to care.
I don't believe I know the future either, but that doesn't mean we can't deduce what is more likely than not.