Deferred/slowed down are one in the same. I'm not spinning diddly I just choose not to live my life like chicken little. It has to get worse before it gets better. That's why Endeavor has what they have. If you want that right now then by all means they will take you. We are properly staffed for our airplanes until summer there's no arguing that. The problem lies with the 14 hour 4 day trips that pagey alluded to and hot reserves being burned for one leg overnights; which is why we are junior manning. I do not agree with the company not stock piling first officers while hiring DECs, but they did and our union did not stop them. I'm not spinning anything the same way I'm not currently advising people come here over other places, but I'm also not telling people to stay away if this is where they want to be.