A lot of FOs are getting their panties in a wad because it might take them 2.5 years to upgrade rather than 2. It's getting annoying hearing about it and there are plenty of guys that could use the extra time in the right seat before they attempt the upgrade and ready for the responsibility. The FOs talking about leaving because of pay are just that, all talk. Very few, if any FOs are making lateral moves. The FOs leaving are going to places like frontier and spirit, not Endeavor.