BURflyer: Yes, I did apply to both FedEx and UPS. Unfortunately, it seems, you need to have an inside contact at either one. The only individual I knew who went to FedEx was psychotic (how he got hired, I don't know), so I couldn't admit I knew him or use him as a reference. The only individual I knew who went to UPS was a woman who was a former AA flight attendant. She seemed to be willing to put in a good word for me, but something happened (I don't know what), and now she is unresponsive when I try to call her. Maybe she's sick too? Anyway, after thirty plus years of this flying thing, I've just had enough. Would have another eleven and change to go, but really not that interested.