Don't forget the options of different kinds of flying. Real international to Asia, Europe, Central and South America. Same money? What is his upgrade time at LUV? In case you forgot, we have a 14 month captain here at DAL. Yes he will have 2500 ahead of him here at DAL, but we have 13,000 pilots on the list, of which some (70% or so) are GONE in the next 10 years. That puts him in a widebody left seat with 20 years to go. Same money? I don't see your argument.