Originally Posted by
Flyby1206
There was another related grievance saying that there were 1500 TWA pilots who were never trained on the AA property, got furloughed/flowback to AE. Since they are being recalled now they are considered "newhires" and AE wants additional AA seniority #s issued to their flowthroughs waiting on #s. This has been ruled upon and apparently these 1500 TWA pilots will count as newhires, but no numbers have been issued and I believe the AE ALPA and APA are talking about ways to solve the problems so that both sides will be satisfied.
They aren't and won't be 'new-hires'. They were acquired when AA bought TWA in Jan 2001, and whether they were trained or not doesn't matter. They were AA pilots making AA wages under the AA contract with AA seniority numbers for up to 3 years until furloughed. When Eagle pilots with AA seniority flow up, if they're senior, they bid ahead of TWA pilots, but they won't get that opportunity until all AA pilots get recalled----around 2010.