Yes they were. And do you realistically think that those will all count and that we will be 'made whole' in the upcoming contract? Will we get each and every one of those items back and adjusted for the loss of the time/value of them? Bankruptcy sucked, no doubt. At some point in time, the company will pay us $500 for 777s. By that time though you will have lost a bunch of buying power, and a lot of investment potential. Is that not in and of itself a concession? And a self induced one at that? Sending an ultimatum is a disaster in negotiating.



Your rhetorical, your answer. I'd actually love to hear it.

And just an added thought: How do you define a concession? Take for example the idea of bringing back a cap. For those that want to work a lot, that is a concession. There are a million more. Just interested in the thoughts here.