I agree that nothing so far has worked. I also agree that increases are needed. I'm just not sold on the idea that they care. I don't think they are delusional into thinking everything is great. I think they are well aware that we're shrinking instead of growing and I just don't think they really care. These nickels and dimes they throw out to "fix" the problem aren't fooling anyone. They have said are staffed to where they want to be and that's why they only need to hire for attrition.