I agree which is why I voted no (for the first time). They were pointless in our highly profitable times.

However more than a few no voters have told me that they honestly thought that they were making more money now than had we ratified the TA, due to 'no PS reduction." They hadn't even listened to the math. (I'm not talking about FOs getting bought off LCA trips then GSing either).

I told them that I'm glad they voted no, but emphasized what the no vote should have been based on.

In any case a good TA should sell itself. No expensive sales job should be required.