Originally Posted by
Scoop
Herk,
I believe his point was allowing Pilots who are released to pick up open time and GS is the staffing concession. We all know staying home with pay is a good deal.
If released Pilots were not allowed to pick up open time it would affect staffing. How would the NYC 717 even operate these days if released Pilots could not pick up time?
If you would say the released Pilots could have a reserve obligation - I would agree with you................................
if we didn't already specifically trade for that a few years ago. I believe it was the one year lock on new hires. So if we get rid of/modify the OE release does the new hire seat lock go away?
Why so quick to assume the company point of view?
Scoop
I'm not "assuming the company point of view"...I'm calling out buffoonish posts.
The "company point of view" would be to go back to the draconian LCA provisions that we agreed to in BK, in which the released pilot not only owed the company recovery obligations, he was at the very top of the list, even ahead of any and all reserves (no matter how overstaffed the category might be)...AND if in an international category could be assigned a trip that returned up to 30 hours after the original trip! In fact it was so punitive that most guys put "avoid trips if LCA" as their first choice.
Then we improved that somewhat (you know, with those E-VILL "Moakist" steps of lots of small improvements when the opportunity arises) when the LCA recovery only came after WS and with quite a few more limitations.
Then we finally achieved our current setup, which is the same as it was back in the good times, where the pilot has zero obligation to the company, but gets paid as if he flew the entire trip. I can assure you that while the company appreciates all those guys GS and WSing, they would much, much prefer how it was post-BK.
I surely would vote against any TA that regressed to that extreme, but let's not for a nanosecond think that our current setup is a "concession." It is only a concession FROM the company TO us.