Quick upgrade and 4 year flow are long gone. You will have about 400 - 500 FOs ahead of you to upgrade. That's a lot of movement that needs to happen in order for you to have your shot at CA upgrade. We are currently flowing 60 /year with the possibility of flowing almost 100 /year if we can grow more. However we have currently stopped growing because we can barely hire to keep up with attrition at the moment. Part of the problem is that our only easily commutable base (CLT) will mean a long time on reserve for a new hire.