Originally Posted by Theoden

Well aren't you just full of expectation bias and projection? He made no such statement and neither did I. (Because I think training departments differ does not mean that I think failure of pilots is necessarily the departments fault) It is a simple fact that some departments will have higher quality than others and systemic negative results are usually signs of systemic problems. This is true of nearly every business. There's nothing wrong with looking in to an organization before joining, in fact it shows wisdom. Obviously a bad student should wash out, no one doubts that. Yet airline training departments are not all the same. Let me give you an example with two regionals: At airline #1, they forgot to have a classroom, instructor, or manuals prepared. Then the ground class was hurried and what was taught in the class was different than in the procedures trainer, and that- inconsistent with the sims, and the sim inconsistent with the manual. For the oral and check-ride, successful students got the gouge of the examiner ahead of time so as to know what version to give them personally. At Airline #2 the department was well prepared and consistent throughout. Bring the required aptitudes, study hard with your classmates, and learn the SOP and you did fine. These two departments were very different and were I an applicant I'd consider many things including the quality of training before going somewhere.