Originally Posted by
RalphWiggum
Ah I guess something I said struck a nerve with the "no BS" crowd. You want no BS?
-We are anywhere from 30-50% underpaid in hour rates to our peers.
-After 11 months amendable we have more sections open than closed
-Many proposals have been worse than what we currently have
-Grievance committee admits in emails they are swamped with record level of NCCs because of the companies noncompliance with the contract
-you're flying around new 320s with more seats than is contractually protected in our contract
-get hired now and without a change in orders or spike in senior attrition you won't upgrade
-you won't travel anywhere in training. They took that away too. Nor will you get paid more than $1750 a month until you complete IOE.
-every month there's a chance you won't be paid correctly (hint it's never in your favor)
-we have a VP of flight ops telling people if they want to be compensated well to go work at another airline.
This is just the cliff notes of 2016 at spirit. All of us that saw this in 2009-2010 play out with Contract 9000 will be glad to tell you history is repeating itself regardless of the crap Kool Aid everyone drinks from the job fairs
Lol. I have been at Spirit for a couple of years now after many years at 2 regionals. Everything word you said is true.
You didn't answer my questions. I'm trying to determine if you are speaking from experience or simply jumping on the band wagon.
Simply put, EVERY airline has problems that are considered horrible by the line pilots. Do you really think that we are uniquely bad? Don't get me wrong, we do have problems. I'm not saying that it's rainbows and unicorns, but no worse than any where else during section 6. Again, not flame baiting; but what is your reference? Please don't say that Delta, United etc don't experience what we do. They just have a different set of bs.
Finally, no I'm not mgmt, or an opentime wh@re, or whatever other name calling someone will come up with.