Originally Posted by
Nightflyer
1) We are not in contract negotiations. There is no reason for the company to give us anything, unless it is to their benefit.
2) The company won't agree to anything that isn't a win for them and a loss for us. If it saves the company money at our expense, it's not a win-win. If it costs the company money, they will simply tell us, "that's nice, see you in a few years".
3) We have voted for bad deals before. I am pretty sure the last time we voted no was 1998. Since then, the pilot group has proved over and over that group think makes us stupid.
4) It seems to me, we are doing the due diligence that should have been done before or during the last negotiations. Too bad that "train has left the station".
5) Put me down as being very skeptical.
....+1 on what he just said
I'm concerned some subgroup is going to be sold out/disadvantaged here
It's happened many times, when some additional benefit we negotiate only ends up applying to pilots of a certain age, or specific cohort
Many pilots, not of the proper age or cohort don't pay attention, and vote for it anyway.
Then they are surprised and confused on why it doesn't apply to them.
Retirement is a strategic pay issue --- people need to think long term.