Oh and Dave the subject was minimum hours and you turned it into deficiency as pilots. You may have forgotten the senior caps when you were hired had many who were hired with almost no time and In their day the initial new-hire class was close to three months, mostly learning how to build the airplane systems.

Today it's a switchology approach to systems, read the check list, turn it off or on, check the inop list and then apply a performance penalty. Much simpler approach and it meets minimum FAA required system knowledge.