Originally Posted by Jaxman187

Speaking of CBA complaining. Has anyone else considered that the training section of the CBA represents a significant utility gain for the company? I thought this contract was supposed to have no concessions!! Perhaps this is part of the reason we are suddenly 250-300 pilots over manned. I know some guys like the new system, but if you just trained on r-days under the old system with some r-days left on either side of your training you would end up being available for significantly fewer days.

LAX MD-11 and Subic lost significantly more on this deal because their training events involved travel days. A shrewdly planned schedule under the old system could result in six credits per day plus some largely unusable substitution days left on either end of the training schedule. I heard it said that they would fix substitution but this is not what I had in mind.


For me personally I have found that the new system drives me to do training on days off. If this is the case for other people then the company is gaining significantly utility across the whole crew force. Hindsight being 20/20 I would have voted no on the CBA.

14 Days per month x 11 Months(one month for vacation) = 154 days/pilot
4800 pilots x 3 extra days because of new CBA / 154 days/pilot = 93.5 pilots

Oh yeah, what do you think of the company now demanding a medical note to use the disability account?