Originally Posted by
Nantonaku
Most people around here are well versed in how the Compass and Mesaba flows played out. To me it seems the flow (or maybe a convenient base) is the only piece that would even remotely make the Envoy deal higher value than the current Endeavor package. That is taking a giant leap of faith putting value on the flow, American's history with flows is fairly suspect. Go read back through the old Eagle threads and see how well American was honoring their flow agreement.
In my experience few people understand at any of our 3 companies that compass flow was inside nwa cba section one and mesaba's was a gift with a few strings attached. Ive sat in the crew room listening to made up crap for years and hacks pretending to be lawyers trying to explain away facts. You see the same bs on here.
While I won't be digging up any old threads with angry pilots making stuff up about their flow, I have had eagle guys explain some of it. Again, flows are nebulous in their terms, and unless the flow is captured in the mainline cba (loa or otherwise) it isnt airtight. But if mainline doesn't follow through with their promises, torches will burn. Mainline will prop up failing regionals staffing models with promises for future jobs, delta will do it too at some point, even though delta hr says they never will. And pilots they'll never ease scope again either. No one will go through a bankruptcy either and we'll stick to our corporate goals too. Core values. Blah blah blah. Synergy!
Aure, the American flow is garbage under some circumstances, and so is the interview program here and endeavor. All things being equal a flow with guaranteed numbers moving on is better than a guaranteed interview with no contractual enforcement,