A couple of management pilots and I were in a discussion this weekend and looking at the numbers at PSA.

Right now, a person that was hired 2 years ago has an average attrition rate above them of 12 per month. It is higher at first, and slows down some - but up to this point, someone could expect to move up 275 spots in 2 years.

The attrition at the top is much higher recently. Besides the flow, we are losing a lot of senior captains to Delta and United (and a few others)

If you combine that attrition with the 30ish new airplanes that we are receiving, it is expected that everyone on the seniority list at PSA right now should upgrade in 24 months or less.