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Old 10-08-2016 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen
While youll fly more initially on the 200 the trips are a joke. 16hour 5days v 28 or 30 hour 5 days on the 900. Where the breakeven is idk, but 900 fos are upgrading as fast or faster than the 200 fos check 1602 and 03. That may be for a variety of reasons, but someone might get an answer for that before we continue pretending 200 fos fly more.

Theres some sort of us v them on fleet you're on which i agree is embarrassing for all of us. I had a 200 crew tell me they couldnt talk to me because they were on the 200 and i was 900. They laughed it off but they didn't look like they were kidding.

Theres good things about both aircraft but if you're a fo the fms head on your side and a free meal every other day makes first year and second pay easier. Cue the "well it was fine for me when i was a 200 fo for 4 years" God I don't care. Ive worked fo on both for multiple years. They only ones trying to talk up the 200 (advent of the moniker Canadian resetjet) are the ones trying to tamp down the us v them crap. Ill tamp it down for ya. Shutup if youre new here, this is one team, not 200 v 900 shirts v skins.

Middle lineholder for a 900 guy has it better than middle line holder for a 200 guy, just look at the trips, we're simply talking math at this point. If you get offended by that or by me, don't.

The only question that matters is, how long will you be reserve on 900 waiting for the better lines. Idk. But the ssp flow is senior FOs right now from the 900 and a mix of a few captains that were not captains as of 14-04.
Keep in mind class date seniority chooses aircraft by seniority by birth date. So a guy who has been flying longer already has the time, or close to it, versus a flight instructor graduate who hits the bottom of the sen list per class. I won't do generalizations, but initial equipment awards do not give an accurate viewpoint on skill set. A guy who is 10 years older and "took a break" can lead to a far more difficult training cycle compared to a guy who graduated recently and has been instructing in glass. Of course, the opposite occurs too. In the end result, you need the time and seniority; the later being less important these days. In training, some guys here that have many years have bigger struggles in upgrade training, vs guys with less time on property and less time in the type. The opposite applies too. Seniority matters, as does prep in the books, SA (HUGE in my book) and willingness to learn.

Don't knock a guy by total time or seniority number. The end result is a seniority number to upgrade, and the time to make it legal. Just because someone is "legal" is far from the truth of "able". Every pilot was hired to be a captain, it comes down to ability and prep to reach that end result.

When bidding positions, the difference of the -200/-900 is really negligible. The -900 IS easier from a systems point of view, but it still ends up in overall knowledge, situational awareness (SA), and willingness to learn. The left seat may only be 3 feet left with a pay bump, but it's a very different job when SHTF.
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