Originally Posted by Jughead135

Nor will I try to tell anyone how to vote: I will discuss my viewpoint, hoping to either refine it or change it with exposure to other intelligent viewpoints; or possibly to sway the vote of those with differing but ill-defined viewpoints.

This TA is undeniably better than last time. If forced to choose, anyone would take it. That's part of the false dichotomy, though. The prior TA does not exist--it was voted down, soundly. Our choice now is, vote this TA in & get on with our lives; or vote this TA down and work toward a contract more reflective of our value to the company.

Never said anything about a DB. I'm forced to agree that it's unlikely to the point of zero probability. There are many ways to address retirement shortfalls, all of which revolve around money in the pilot's own name (I assume that latter point is the "good thing" you mention). "Restoration" can come in many different forms, but, a pittance 1% atop the DC is not a meaningful one.

Couple industry-standard pay rates with an otherwise concessionary contract (some good, some bad--but, in the balance, concessionary), and a vote for this TA is voting for an 18% check in December--and nothing else. I for one believe the company negotiators are quite aware of that carrot....