Originally Posted by
Dubz
Why wouldn't you interview at both. Get a feel for the airlines through the interview process, they should be selling you on them just as much as you are trying to sell them on you. If you get an offer from both, then you have a decision to make. I'm interested to see how it turns out and what you decide. Best wishes.
I will be interviewing at both. PSA next week and Envoy the following. I had a scheduled interview yesterday at Envoy, but some family stuff came up last minute.
Originally Posted by
Smutter
Take notice that none of us from Envoy are selling it. So when crj-700 or others come in here and try to tell you Envoy is a great place to be, think very hard about it.
Most of my friends at Envoy are 175 guys that got in during the direct 175 classes. They are happy but the 145 friends say it's turning into XJT 2.0.
Originally Posted by
PDTFlyer
Just curious. Why isn't Piedmont an option?
I have no desire to be based in Philly. The cost of living is about 3x my home state. Plus the commute would be two leg, if not three.
Originally Posted by
babs
Sounds like PSA would provide you the best QOL initially, but if your final goal is AA then PSA is probably not the place to go. Unless you have a military background, you are not getting hired at AA off the street and PSA's flow is a joke. What is it? 10+ years for a new hire today.
I'd like to end up at Delta. AA my second followed by United. Any of the big three would be fine.
Originally Posted by
chrisreedrules
Bottom line to ANY new hires looking at the AAG WOs. You should realistically look at the flows as an attrition generator that will help ensure you experience steady movement up the seniority list. By the time the flow gets around to you, this industry is going to be transformed into something very different than it is today. The flows may or may not exist. Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont may or may not exist. None of us know what's going to happen over the next 5 years because the industry is basically going through some uncharted territory with the regional pilot shortage and the retirements at mainline. Pick the airline that works the best for you and your family and don't get caught up worrying about "who is going to flow me to mainline the quickest". Much has changed in the past couple years, and much will change in the next couple.
And from what I've heard new hires say, they didn't choose Piedmont because of your base options and equipment.
+1 truth. I'm just trying to hash out the best option for me for the next few years. After debating it in my head I figured I'd ask around outside my circle of pilot friends.
Originally Posted by
PiedmontFlyer
Agree that it is cyclical. PSA's star was on the rise a year ago, now it is Piedmont's turn. Soon, it will be someone else. (Although I don't beli e AAG will let any of the WOs fail at this point.) My point is, ask questions. Ask if you'll take a pay cut in year two. Ask to see the hire date of the most junior captain. Ask to see the math on the flow. The WOs are a great choice, but do your homework.
Will do! I've been quite confused by the whole Envoy flow math.