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Old 11-25-2016 | 05:45 PM
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andrewtac
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Corrections/changes embedded for folks looking at AA
Originally Posted by crewdawg
Reserve
-Min 12 days off (usually 13-15). -- Same min, I have had 18 last month and 19 off this month since holding long call.
-Can't be used day 1 until 1000...can be as late as 1200 with a commute clause. -- For long call it is always 1200. Short call based on your RAP.
-All reserve is long call unless converted to short call (usually 3ish a month). -- Since holding long call I haven't been converted (I had a month of long call when teetering back and forth when I had 2 or 3 days converted).
-3-4 day reserve blocks are my standard...some months I put them all straight (requiring a min of 2 of my reserve days off for rest). -- About the same for me.
-I can put a 1 day block of reserve on the 1st or last day of the month (read...low likelihood of being called). -- did that next month for the same reason.
-Rolling thunder can be EXTREMELY lucrative. If you've never heard of it, essentially you make way over guarantee and sit little to no days of reserve.
-Reserve is pretty nice and can be very senior sometimes. -- for the number of days I work versus the pay I think I might bid reserve as long as I am at AA.
-Released at noon on the last day of a reserve block. -- released at 1000 on long call and +6 hours for short call.

Pay
-I made way more year 2 at DAL on the 737, than I would have on the 75/76 at AAL.
-Our 3 days are worth 15.45 minimum...at AAL I flew a 3 day worth 9-10 hours. -. Yes this sucks, hopefully it will change.
-Overtime is paid at 200%...with plenty to go around. - 150%
-Get paid when the company buys my trip for OE...many guys pick up trips over the original trips footprint and get paid 2x or 3x if it''s a greenslip. My buddy is pretty senior in his seat and is averaging 120ish hours/month, with very few days worked.

Commuting
-Once I reserve the jumpsuit its mine...this is FAR superior to AALs JS policy. At AAL I had a dude show up 15 min prior and kick me off the last JS out of town that night. I was trying to get home and he was going to a bachelor party... -- no longer like this, it is 7 days out and first come first serve (I think it is actually 8 days). Only a fed of an A1 can bump.
-Commuting to/from work gets first shot at the JS (window to schedule opens a few days prior to everyone else).
-Unable to commute is pretty nice...can't remember what AAL had. -- current commute clause is one flight, I think it was two in the past.
-I can use a commute clause to not be used until noon on day 1 off a reserve block. -. AA can't be used until noon day one unless you volunteer to go early.

Schedule
-Average 16-19 days off on a NB. -- this is what I am doing on reserve, I think line holders are 15-16
-Tons of resources to drop, swap and trade trips.
-Was able to hold a line month 2 on the line.
-Never held a line at AAL so I can't really compare them.




Not necessarily work rules but another thing that isn't right is the DOH stuff. Recently talked with a few of my classmates and amazed at what's going down. Our class was one of the first to have USAir hired guys in INDOC. Their seniority started day 1 of indoc...ours started 2-3 months later. After the SLI, that stayed the same. So now there are guys who started indoc on the same day (as one class, post SOC), but the AAL guys don't jump to the next years pay until 2-3 months after the USAir guys. A few of my buddies brought it up to APA and they basically told them to pound sand...we aren't going to fight this. That is extremely screwed up and if I were there, I would explore a DFR suit against APA.
The above paragraph, senority is the same; pay is not. There is a 2-3 month lag for LAA new hires compared to LUS. It is messed up. Don't think it will be fixed. Also, I think LUS gets 16% year one, also messed up LAA doesn't.

So I don't think work rules are that far off, even witb a post BK contract. I don't know DALs history, is this there first post BK contract? Pay is lagging, but same as before.
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