Originally Posted by
Dacuj
Ah, but you are wrong on several points.
Upgrade is currently at 5 years and plummeting.
Shrinking has stopped. Growth coming.
5 year captain pay at Envoy won't matter compared to Spirit FO pay when you upgrade in 1.5 and flow in 5 years and change.
I'm just saying Envoy is a great option for you guys to get out of that cesspool and get to AA. If you made the move today, you would likely be at American before your new contract is TA'd.
Growth? They had 240 airplanes and 3200 pilots 6 years ago and are about 30% less than that now. Guess who paid for that "growth?" The eagle pilots courtesy of a concessionary contract from a company that declared chp 11 with $5 billion in cash in the bank. Why are they offering signing bonuses if everything is rainbows? Don't get me wrong, it may not be a bad place to be in the regional world, but just wait and have fun in a couple years when you're pitted against piedmont and psa to see who can stoop the lowest to keep their planes.
I'd go to AA from spirit without giving it much thought, but they have a tough road ahead. Gave up a lot of things to get the pay rate they have and now they about 6th in the pack for compensation and a crappy quality of life to boot. Might want to find a different thread to spread your company cheerleading.