I think we're placing too much blame to ALPA and Obama. For every airline pilot who opposed this, and for every dollar we spent, there were thousands of others who wanted this to go through had far deeper pockets than we do. Just think how much money Boeing spent to push for this. Our's was but a pittance in comparison. Make no mistake, I think this really sucks and as Special Tracking said, the lid to the coffin is wide open and we're the ones peering inside.

I think we were outgunned and outspent. Hopefully Trump will see things differently and act in our favor, but I doubt it.

I bristle when I hear comments regarding concessions. That's what triggered my post. Anyone in this industry who doesn't arrange his finances for the inevitable downturn is foolish. Realization that we're in a cyclical industry is one thing, but caving early is another.