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Old 12-09-2016 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ItnStln
Never! That's just the way the left is...
You do realize that the same people who are saying that Obama is never held accountable for things after 8 years in the White House are blaming Clinton for the economic crisis which happened at the end of 8 years of Bush in the very same breath, right?

Personally, I'm so sick of politics that if I could come vomit this whole thread off my computer I would do it.

Look, I'm a staunch Democrat. I'm absolutely aghast at Trump, and most poignantly what his little hissy fit with China is going to end up doing to UAL.... China. You know, the crown jewel of our operation. If China/US goes south, you won't even remember what NAI IS in terms of disaster to your career. Under Obama we've seen some great things. Stock market (where your retirement now is thanks to UAL being allowed to shed the pensions) has gone from 6600 to 19000, it wasn't a coincidence that after picketing the White House, the NMB appointed mediator gave us the leverage we needed to secure the contract we all benefit from now. But he KILLED us on NAI. I'm furious. I 100% blame him and hold him accountable for this devastating blow to the profession. So there, I'M the left, and I hold him personally accountable. Now can we shut up and move on from this STUPID argument??
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Old 12-09-2016 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
You do realize that the same people who are saying that Obama is never held accountable for things after 8 years in the White House are blaming Clinton for the economic crisis which happened at the end of 8 years of Bush in the very same breath, right?

Personally, I'm so sick of politics that if I could come vomit this whole thread off my computer I would do it.

Look, I'm a staunch Democrat. I'm absolutely aghast at Trump, and most poignantly what his little hissy fit with China is going to end up doing to UAL.... China. You know, the crown jewel of our operation. If China/US goes south, you won't even remember what NAI IS in terms of disaster to your career. Under Obama we've seen some great things. Stock market (where your retirement now is thanks to UAL being allowed to shed the pensions) has gone from 6600 to 19000, it wasn't a coincidence that after picketing the White House, the NMB appointed mediator gave us the leverage we needed to secure the contract we all benefit from now. But he KILLED us on NAI. I'm furious. I 100% blame him and hold him accountable for this devastating blow to the profession. So there, I'M the left, and I hold him personally accountable. Now can we shut up and move on from this STUPID argument??
Well said. I have contempt for both parties, just a little more for one than the other. Trump has his warts like any politician or person for that matter. I will withhold judgment until we see what his actions yield not his rhetoric.

Regarding china, I'm am hoping most of the rhetoric is bravado. I do believe china needs to be held accountable for their economic manipulation. But the Chinese-American relationship is symbiotic. Both sides need each other and I hope that realization will prevail.

You're a Democrat I'm a conservative, we are in this fight together. We need to have each other's back to protect our industry, our airline, and our careers.
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Old 12-09-2016 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
Well said. I have contempt for both parties, just a little more for one than the other. Trump has his warts like any politician or person for that matter. I will withhold judgment until we see what his actions yield not his rhetoric.

Regarding china, I'm am hoping most of the rhetoric is bravado. I do believe china needs to be held accountable for their economic manipulation. But the Chinese-American relationship is symbiotic. Both sides need each other and I hope that realization will prevail.

You're a Democrat I'm a conservative, we are in this fight together. We need to have each other's back to protect our industry, our airline, and our careers.
Exactly. Hoping for Trumps failure is like hoping the captain crashes the airplane that we're all on.
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Old 12-09-2016 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
Well said. I have contempt for both parties, just a little more for one than the other. Trump has his warts like any politician or person for that matter. I will withhold judgment until we see what his actions yield not his rhetoric.

Regarding china, I'm am hoping most of the rhetoric is bravado. I do believe china needs to be held accountable for their economic manipulation. But the Chinese-American relationship is symbiotic. Both sides need each other and I hope that realization will prevail.

You're a Democrat I'm a conservative, we are in this fight together. We need to have each other's back to protect our industry, our airline, and our careers.
Completely agree. I care WAY more about my profession than I do about either political party, which is why I really hope we can dampen the rhetoric on this thread. We are all most definitely in this together
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