Originally Posted by
Dacuj
The previous thread was over a year old and gives mobile users a lot of redirects so I thought I would start a new thread with some info about Envoy.
Great things are happening at Envoy. The sky is the limit.
Flow/Upgrade – AA projecting 750 new hires next year. Expect 360 to 400 to flow in 2017 and an additional 360 in 2018 for a total of close to 800 over two years alone. A new hire can expect to flow to AA in just over 5 years.
Upgrade is projected at 2.5 to 3 years and is currently dropping fast. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see upgrades at less than 2 years in the near future.
New hires. Currently hiring like gangbusters. The last class had 41. Hiring projections for 2017 are in the 750 range. New hires are now eligible for bonuses that bring total first year compensation to 60k.
If you are looking at Envoy, now is the time. Get in on the front of the wave and reap the benefits of rapid seniority advancement and the AA flow.
Amigo, this has to be the most dumb, how do you say, horse poo poo post of all times.
Most are very awares of Envoy schedules and how bad that they are. The schedules there are so bad that even those who have been with the company for almost 10 years are considering quitting. I have very good friends still there at Envoy. Some captains there now were my FO long ago. One amigo after over 9 years is quitting to go to Spirit. I guess that should be telling of the flow or at least of how it is not working or at least of how most of this seniority view as to how long it will take. This friend is very very tired and has family. AFter days on the road with only 2 days off until next trip, he gets junior manned assignments on a regular basis. See why he is leaving?
Many say this flow will continue on forever. the real problem is that after the 824 pilot flows, the flow will be reduced. By contract. Then the compnay will meter the flow and then reduce even more. At the end you can expect that flow from Envoy will be the same numbers as peidmont and psa. Maybe 15 flows each month.
This will happen in 2017 sometime late. Mark these words and come back to check with me amigo. Time will tell