Originally Posted by FlameNSky

While I agree that cr700 and dacuj are definitely men with an agenda, what you two as well as smutter etc etc do is no different, just the opposite. While they are all rainbows and butterflies, you guys have nothing but complaints and doom and gloom. Your agendas may be different, but you are as obvious as they are in what your agendas are. If not for the fact that I fly with guys everyday at this company, if I didn't know any better, I would stay away from envoy just to avoid flying with people with such negativity and disgruntlement such as yourself. (I do understand that away from the keyboard, you are not really this way, but that is the only image you project on here).

While I readily agree that envoy has its far share of problems, but no company is as bad as you like to make it out to be. Not every pilot at Republic get 25 hr commutable three day trips. Not every skywest pilot gets everything they ask for with PBS. Even mainline pilots work holidays and get JM'd. Am Eagle had it really good under AMR. We were insulated from many of the aspects that regional pilots face such as a lack of cadence or 2 days off between trips. I agree that compared to how it was under AMR, envoy's schedules really suck now. The objective reality of the average envoy pilots situation now is, that we suck as bad as every other regional now. Yup, envoy sucks, just like everyone else sucks. The other difference is the other regionals don't have a group of butt hurt pilots upset that their figurative, silver spoon, was taken out of their mouths.

I'm not saying that we don't deserve better. And wholeheartedly believe we should fight for better. I'm just saying that the temper tantrum-negative posts in response to each and every positive or neutral comment someone makes is kind of pathetic. I understand that you feel that by "exposing" their bad management practices (and they are bad management practices) that you can force them into treating us better but the cold hard fact of the matter is, it won't. As the union has been telling them for years, money talks. The few "informed" new hires you may scare away won't make a huge dent in their new hire numbers now that the financial needs and expectations of new hires are being met.

At the end of the day, you are just making envoy pilots look bad while at best, barely slighting the company.