Originally Posted by
newKnow
Eric,
I think my point to you and 1900 is that you are preaching to the choir.
If you think you can tell us about flying for the commuters and pathetic pay, you are preachng to the choir.
If you think you can tell us about the effect of giving up scope, you are preaching to the choir.
And, if you think you can inform us about how many RJ's are out there, you are preaching to the choir.
The point I made, that you seemed to miss, is that we know what's up.
Don't come yapping in our face about what happened in the past. Some, even most of us, are willing to do what it takes to get back what we lost.
But for you, or anyone else, to approach us with, "Hey, NWA guy's, why did you do that?" (like the little guy that was bugging Maverick in Top Gun because he wouldn't fire), is disrespectful.
For you to try to tell someone about the pathetic pay at the commuters when they were flying for the commuters when you were in grade school, is disrespectful.
In essence, I am saying that to point out the obvious to someone in a way that is not constructive, is disrespectful.
If you can't see that then, dude, you have no clothes.
If 1900 and I are preaching to the choir then way does it still happen. why do the majors continue to give up scope. they obviously haven't learned that lesson yet. even after 9-11 when guys were getting furloughed they gave up more airplanes. I'm not just talking about just NWA either.
You say that I am preaching to the choir but it doesn't seem like it. when you don't think that giving up scope affects regional pilots and future pilots it seems like i'm not preaching to the choir. whether that's the the case or not that's what it seems like.
in regards to the maveric comment he knew he didn't fire and screwed up but didn't want to here it, right. now think to the last dog fight in the movie when tim robbins is his RIO. maveric screws up again and this time Tim is yelling at him to get back in the fight or ice isn't going to survive. maveric and tim would have been fine if he left the fight but iceman and his RIO wouldn't be. sometimes you need someone yelling, questioning, or telling you that you screwed up so that it doesn't continue to happen over and over. right now it is happening over and over with larger airplanes. 1900 was just asking why. he doesn't work for NWA and just wanted to know why because he doesn't understand it either.
when you say that you are willing to fight to get it back does that mean getting those airplanes back because I just don't see it. I believe that the pay and work rules will go up again but I don't see any major EVER getting the planes back.
It is very frustrating to hear people know how bad it is at the regionals and yet they still give more and more airplanes to them. this is not directed at you but to every major and to alpa who is suppose to be looking out for all pilots. just curious how big were the regionals when you were their?