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Old 02-05-2017 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
It has to be in a part 121, 135, 141, or 141 training course (not just at a 141 school, but actually has to be a part of an approved training course). But an ATD/AATD does not count, see AC 61-136A

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...AC_61-136A.pdf

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/61.159

Click on the hyperlinked words in the second link there for additional clarification/specification, if needed.



Incorrect, it absolutely can count for TT in the case of 61.159(a)(6), which is what the OP is asking about.
Figured as much, thanks for the sources!

Was part 141, but majority of it was in AATD. Maybe 30 hours or so in a CRJ FTD. Oh well, 30 is better than none. 100 would have been nicer though

Edit: Interesting that the AC uses wording that would imply that the AATD can be used towards an ATP, but never specifies any time that can be used towards it. Perhaps left vague in case they want to allow it in the future? Otherwise I don't know what the point would be..

"2. AUTHORIZED USE. Except for specific aircraft type training and testing, an AATD may be approved and authorized for use in accomplishing certain required tasks, maneuvers, or procedures as applicable under Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) parts 61 and 141. The FAA will specify the allowable credit in the AATD LOA for private pilot, instrument rating, instrument recency of experience, instrument proficiency check, commercial pilot, and airline transport pilot (ATP)."

"(3) Provides an adequate training platform for both procedural and operational performance tasks specific to the ground and flight training requirements for Private Pilot Certificate, instrument rating, Commercial Pilot Certificate, and Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Certificate, and Flight Instructor Certificate per parts 61 and 141."
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